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Compare Hyundai Accent with Toyota Avanza/Other MPVs Only
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highfever
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:36 am    Post subject: Compare Hyundai Accent with Toyota Avanza/Other MPVs Only Reply with quote

Hi all! Laughing

I am new to this forum. Was thinking of getting a new car, either a kia picanto or getz about a month ago. Personally prefer sporty and compact cars.

So while wanting to look at getz i happened to chanced upon a dark blue accent n i fell in love instantly. The unit i saw was with the spoiler, u-cool and leather.

As this is gonna be the first time getting a new car, I wanna make sure its gonna be the best choice.

My main concerns are:
1. will the price drop next year?
2. should I wait till the aeroback version comes out? or maybe the avanza?
3. if i were to get accent, is it advisable to get the leather seat, u-cool, spoiler pack? The SA actually suggested to get eco-tint at rm300, he says its better.


Anyone bought from the taipan usj showroom? R they reliable? Most SA tell me I should be able to get the car within 2 weeks.

Feedbacks are much appreciated! Thanks! Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go get 'em now!. Very Happy No lah, u have to test drive it first. Not only accent but any car u want to buy. If u feel accent suits u than get it. About the price I'm not sure but what I've been informed and heard is the price is not going to be dropped too low or there'll be no drop at all. ( This is purely hearsay meh). My SA didnt advice me to get the U-kool instead he ask me to get others such as V-kool.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highfever,
it seems like Avanza is only good on city driving...not the highway based on the statement below Rolling Eyes
while Hyundai Accent is good driving on the highway
and can not compare 1.0cc/1.3cc with 1.5cc
and sedan with Mini MPV...lah
wait and see since Avanza is going to launch next month


Source:autoworld

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Avanza, reviewed by bangkok post....
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Step inside the Avanza and there's full proof of the car's intention of
attracting such a target of buyers. Firstly, the hollow roofline and seams
are reminiscent of those in the Hilux pickup or a Corolla of the '80s.

The interior is proletarian and is almost devoid of any unnecessary
functions. The air-conditioning system, for instance, comes with only three
speeds, thermostat and a fresh/recirculate mode. That's it.

The driving position is almost fixed, bar the fore/aft adjustment for the
seat. There is no height adjustment for the seat, steering wheel or
seatbelt. Also, the left footwell of the transmission tunnel is quite
intrusive.

At least, Toyota has made some effort in trying to brighten up the dour
cabin. There are some metallic-look-alike rims on the panel dials,
carbon-fibre plastics on the dash and a two-tone fabric upholstery. Leather
is available in the S range-topper.

Can the Avanza seat seven adults in comfort? Yes, headroom isn't a problem
due to the car's tall stance. Legroom is just enough, if slightly on the
cramped side.

To increase passenger comfort, there's another air-conditioning system
fitted on the roof that works sufficiently well.

The Avanza is more of an outright people-carrier rather than a MPV. The
second and third row of seats can fold, but won't disappear (unless you
unscrew them). At least, tucking them away and returning them to their
original positions is easy and user-friendly.

Cargo space, on the other hand, is only useful when the rear bench is
stowed. Otherwise, there is barely any room to put things when the backrest
is up.

While the overall interior doesn't feel special, the exterior is just as
uninspirational. The car's tall waistline and puny-looking wheels make the
Avanza look like a commercial van, particularly when viewing it straight up
front.

Again, Toyota has attempted to spice up the outside with foglamps that
sometimes feel quite irrelevant for a budget car aimed at urban dwellers.

The Avanza is based on a semi-monocoque construction whereby the
chassis-on-frame are stamped into one piece. The suspension components
include struts up front and coils at the rear. The driving characteristics
are only average on the move. The ride at low speed is okay, but slightly
lumpy over bumps and road imperfections. The steering, on the other hand is
reasonably direct and makes the Avanza agile in city-driving.

Since the Avanza uses a rear-wheel-drive format coupled with an engine that
sits longitudinally, the turning radius is good at just 4.7 metres.

At higher speeds, the driving manners begin to falter. The steering becomes
slightly vague in feel, particularly during cornering. Additionally, the
brakes don't feel that powerful when trying to bring the car to a complete,
convincing stop.

The power source is an 88hp 1.3-litre engine that comes with variable valve
timing. With maximum shove of 120Nm coming at just 3,200Nm, the Avanza
performs adequately in the city.

But out on the highway, the Avanza stumbles again. Grunt begins to lack at
speeds over 100kph. Otherwise, the four-speed automatic must be engaged
into kickdown _ and the engine is noisy at high revs.
The short gearings of the transmission also backfire at high speeds.
Between 100-120kph, the engine loiters between 3,500-4,000rpm in top gear.

The same goes for the five-speed manual version and makes overall
refinement lacking.

It appears that the Avanza's engine and transmission has been tailored for
city driving to suit the car's concept.

Yes, it works well in its definition, but then you wonder why the engine is
redlined at almost 7,000rpm.

To sum it up, the Avanza is at best as a people-mover in the hands of
restrained drivers for city-driving _:
....
....The Avanza's tall appearance looks quirky, but pays off for interior
headroom.
....The driving characteristics are only average .
....Interior design is utterly bland; driving position has limited adjustments.
....The 88hp 1.3-litre engine yields adequate performance in city-driving,
but not on the highway
....Space in the second and third row of seats is sufficient, if not great.
....Cargo space will only be usable if the bench is tucked away.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not buy it now!! you think car price will drop next year? I don't think so if drop who want buy local one already?!! you!!?? aeroback version i think depend to u loh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i see in net, aeroback version seems to have even more SEXY butt ! ha! more sporty, but sedan more classy :>

car price had been rising since i bought mine... waiting for price drop? hmm... if can afford to wait, then i suppose more alternative is going to be available... heard Toyota is coming out with a few model targeting malaysian market... rumors only?

anyway, at the moment accent is still the cheapest car after wira in the same class... besides proton car...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input.

I will never buy a local car, never! i have been driving my brother's iswara... surprisingly it has been quite good condition.

but both my dad & brother were driving waja. both experienced door failure at the back passenger side. my dad's waja even had an engine failure at the niddle of the journey! it cost him ard 7k to repair!

I am still looking ard to see which place will take the trade in for my brother's car.

I test drove accent last week. What should I look out while test driving? Any advice?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highfever wrote:
Thanks for the input.

I will never buy a local car, never! i have been driving my brother's iswara... surprisingly it has been quite good condition.

but both my dad & brother were driving waja. both experienced door failure at the back passenger side. my dad's waja even had an engine failure at the niddle of the journey! it cost him ard 7k to repair!

I am still looking ard to see which place will take the trade in for my brother's car.

I test drove accent last week. What should I look out while test driving? Any advice?


Switch off radio and turn A/C to minimun speed listen to any noise from dashboard, road noise and traffic noise etc. Go trough bumpy road feel the suspension. Accerate and feel the power. Look for exterior body alignment and etc...... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u r ordering the car, remember to squeez whatever u can from SA... they can actually give u a good deal if u know how to do it... dont hessitate to stand up and walk out from the showroom if u think its not max u can get!! still a lot of place to buy ma!! Twisted Evil Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TewKY for yr advice. test drive normally can go how long?
the last time i think i did for less than 5 mins only...

Hurricane, what to squeeze ah? so far all the showrooms i went also never offer anything 1...
somemore low price to trade in the iswara...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all Wink

Just want to ask you guys opinion abt this Accent. Shoul I go for manual or automatic? Because a lot of features only have in automatic but not in manual... Hope can give some advises.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both version of the car is good but again this question can be answered only you. Smile In any type or brand of car of cause manual is lil bit powerful and u can have the feeling of total control of the car. For handling and suspension I can give thumb up for accent. Most of the ppl have lil bit sceptical bout korean car but once u drive it and own it, u will know that most of the thing that they said is not rue. Btw so far the after sales service is good (based on my experience meh). I owned a kelisa and pv6 and in term of headache in maintaning the car, accent is a peace of mind Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on u..... auto do have more functions like side mirror heating, distance to empty.... but u must remember that it's more expensive rm3k.
Auto is good since it have fuzzy logic control system. But of cuz auto will be higher FC... Twisted Evil
Mine is manual... cuz i like the feeling of fully control the car... and the acceleration is also better than auto.. and again, lower FC than auto. Very Happy
But if u r driving in 100% city.. especially KL ... then i guess it's better to choose auto.. or else ur leg....... need operation oredi.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

highfever,
when i bought my car, i just manage to squeez free u-kool from SA. they also offer me free astro (of coz now its memang free la), but i refused. pls go thru the previous discussion... I remember someone got a good deal... and a lot of free gift! (can anyone tell highfever who was that? )


as for buying auto or manual... depends on ur budget... if going for lower FC, manual of course better. the extra features in auto may seem nice, but not so essential. anyone can give comment about meter? is it really accurate and useful? but i guess heated side mirror would be good, coz i without it i experienced problem using side mirror esp rainy days...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

htchua wrote:
Hello all Wink

Just want to ask you guys opinion abt this Accent. Shoul I go for manual or automatic? Because a lot of features only have in automatic but not in manual... Hope can give some advises.. Very Happy



highfever & htchua,

auto version is good when u are always driving in the city (traffi jam lah)
and manual version is good if u want more control of the car

so what do u need shall base on the requirement of the driving..

hope this info will help Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday i saw Accent Hatch back at Sri Petaling but number plate is singapore car...don't know when will launch at here! No very like Hatch back!!!
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